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JLR PSA: Don’t remote start your vehicle and expect CarPlay to work, seen on 2017 & 2018 models with 18C

Since 18C went wide, I’ve read more and more people saying that CarPlay doesn’t work properly if you try to use it after remote starting the car via the mediocre Land Rover Remote app. 

Last night I saw it first hand, and it’s even worse than it seemed.

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After the fifth attempt of killing and restarting the app on my phone, signing in and out, it telling me my PIN was incorrect (it wasn’t), it FINALLY started the vehicle remotely.  Further info – my phone had a good internet connection and when I got back to the car it had full 3G service.  Entire process just continues to be horrible – embarrassingly bad and a real joke.

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Anyway – I get in car that’s been running tap the brake to tell car I’m physically there.  Then I connect the phone for CarPlay – CarPlay logo appears on iPhone quickly and dreaded pop-down user-unfriendly message appears on Range Rover screen ‘Apple CarPlay’ not available.  All modern JLR owners have seen this type of message at one time or another. 

So at this point the system is confused – I get the CarPlay icon on the bottom toolbar which means I lose standard phone functions, the media input screen also lists CarPlay but won’t switch to it.  I got an incoming call and couldn’t answer it hands-free because of this.  And then had to leave the iPhone unplugged from the vehicle so it wouldn’t keep thinking it was on CarPlay.  What if my battery was low and I needed to charge it via the car but also needed it to actually work?

Do you think the engineers who didn’t test anything before shipping it thought that since the Remote Start is so bad, there’s a slim chance a user would hit this bug and try to use CarPlay?  Or did they not even test these scenarios and this is all a surprise?

This system has always had odd issues for me when using it after a Remote Start.  Sometimes the cameras wouldn’t work, sometimes you’d just get a black screen.  Those bugs seem to have been resolved for me at least.

And there it is (part 2), CarPlay in a North American 2017 Range Rover

Thanks Paul!

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More from a 2018 Range Rover running 18C with Smartphone Pack, S18C_18.37.1-222737

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And there it is (part 1), CarPlay in a North American 2018 Range Rover

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Is the refuel procedure on the PHEV Range Rovers the same on other PHEV vehicles?

First there’s a dedicated button to open the fuel door the also opens the fuel tank isolation valve & depressurized the tank then unlocks the filler flap.  I’ll let the owners manual take it from here:

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FUEL FILLER FLAP LOCK
Note: Make sure that the vehicle is refuelled shortly after the refuelling button is pressed. Failure to do so may result in the fuel tank not being filled to the required level. If in doubt, check the fuel level gauge in the instrument panel before continuing the journey, to prevent running out of fuel.

Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicles (PHEV) have a locking fuel filler flap and an isolation valve on the fuel tank.
The vehicle cannot be refuelled until the following has occurred:
• The isolation valve on the fuel tank is open.
• The fuel tank is depressurised.
• The fuel filler flap is unlocked.
To enable refuelling, carry out the following:

1. Switch off the vehicle’s ignition, apply the Electric Parking Brake (EPB), and make sure that the transmission is engaged in Park (P).
2. Press the refuelling button located in the lower switch panel at the driver’s side of the fascia. The isolation valve on the fuel tank opens to depressurise the fuel tank. The fuel filler flap unlocks. The instrument panel displays a message to confirm that the fuel filler flap is unlocking.
3. The instrument panel displays a message to confirm that the fuel filler flap is unlocked and the vehicle can be refuelled. See 382, FUEL FILLER FLAP.

The isolation valve on the fuel tank remains open for approximately 10 minutes, at which point the valve shuts, preventing further refuelling. If further refuelling is required, repeat the above process to open the isolation valve on the fuel tank.

Note: Make sure that the vehicle is stationary. The fuel filler flap does not unlock, and the isolation valve on the fuel tank does not open, if the vehicle is moving. The instrument panel displays a message to confirm that the vehicle’s speed is too high.

Note: Make sure that the fuel filler flap is closed after refuelling. The instrument panel displays a message to confirm that the fuel filler flap is not fully closed. If a fault is detected on either the fuel filler flap system, or on the isolation valve system on the fuel tank, the instrument panel displays a message. In this event, consult a retailer/authorised repairer or roadside assistance. See 501, ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE. See 357, PROTECT.